tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post3330661286205245195..comments2024-03-24T13:38:03.683-05:00Comments on Adventures with Olaf: Uhtceare about the RockOlaf Danielsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18427270873795437960noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-16395060430309836642016-03-10T11:09:41.851-06:002016-03-10T11:09:41.851-06:00as I've noted the magic number is all plus 80
...as I've noted the magic number is all plus 80<br />big undertaking.....Olaf Danielsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18427270873795437960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-48827212604065034532016-03-10T10:53:40.910-06:002016-03-10T10:53:40.910-06:00Thanks, Joe. So we can now calculate that the tota...Thanks, Joe. So we can now calculate that the total number of regular (code1+2) birds on the checklist in 1998 was 657. Sandy missed five of these: Common-ringed Plover, Mottled Petrel, Great Gray Owl, Gray Vireo, and McKay's Bunting. The first two are tougher than most code 3 birds and have been missed by many big year birders. The owl and vireo are pretty big misses for a big year birder, and I understand he was very close to seeing both. McKay's is sort of in-between. The strategy of going up to Alaska to see it in the winter was developed later. <br /><br />Since 1998 there have been 8 splits, no lumps, 7 added exotics, and one deleted exotic, leaving the current number of regular birds officially at 671. This does not include the condor, which is still code 6 but probably will be changed to code 2.<br /><br />It is also likely that there will be one more split when the next checklist comes out this year, which would raise Olaf's effective maximum to 673. That is four more than Neil Hayward had available in 2013. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03485918551516333059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-63676408489949779992016-03-09T21:07:39.670-06:002016-03-09T21:07:39.670-06:00split canada goose, oriole, ridgeway's, sage s...split canada goose, oriole, ridgeway's, sage sparrow, 3 parakeets, I think, swamphen, egyptian goose, condor, munia, maybe woodhouse'e, the Xanthu's murrelet made a coded bird, as did the scoter's so nothing there...so checklist at least a dozen more, not sure what got changed in codeds.....unless I don't chase anything...I get in the 60s for coded birds just playing out the clock with my scheduled trips, which isn't good enough but gives me some hopeOlaf Danielsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18427270873795437960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-14558665090349197692016-03-09T21:02:20.109-06:002016-03-09T21:02:20.109-06:00I scrapped Florida for the Fieldfare chase one of ...I scrapped Florida for the Fieldfare chase one of the reasons I was having trouble sleeping, had to burn 2 plane tickets on the deal, not complaining just truth of it all. So have a fixed Arizona trip with daughter (has 3 day weekend) tomorrow, so in time went here to Connecticut, bnecause couldn't get to FL and west and the silly goose won't show, will look a last time in morning, so now can't leave again for florida until tuesday, I have business at home on Monday i think...will try to do in AZ...life getting in way of birding...Olaf Danielsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18427270873795437960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-39941419304146232202016-03-09T20:13:56.240-06:002016-03-09T20:13:56.240-06:00Following up on Jeff's comment: as close as I ...Following up on Jeff's comment: as close as I can ascertain, by the standards of the current checklist Sandy had 486 Code 1 species, 166 Code 2's, 68 Code 3's, 22 Code 4's, and 6 Code 5's, for a total of 96 coded birds. Olaf is doing quite well, I think.trptjoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05693848945933915289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-88739708706600795552016-03-09T19:04:00.977-06:002016-03-09T19:04:00.977-06:00There's a great article by Greg Neise that com...There's a great article by Greg Neise that compares the Komito/Hayward Big Years: http://blog.aba.org/2013/12/hayward-vs-komito-a-look-at-the-playing-field.html<br />trptjoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05693848945933915289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-18647640850689761892016-03-09T18:42:07.341-06:002016-03-09T18:42:07.341-06:00Olaf, so you stopped in Connecticut for the goose....Olaf, so you stopped in Connecticut for the goose. I hope you still can go for the Grassquit. Neil Hayward, John Vanderpoel, and Bob Ake have all seen it in the past few days. I guess once you do a big year it's hard to stop chasing...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03485918551516333059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-9736839870710592392016-03-09T17:47:59.685-06:002016-03-09T17:47:59.685-06:00It was.
Jeff, I thought it was you! Email me and I...It was.<br />Jeff, I thought it was you! Email me and I'll send the list. Olaf, you, too. trptjoe@aol.comtrptjoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05693848945933915289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-9045011560038941752016-03-09T17:41:43.171-06:002016-03-09T17:41:43.171-06:00That would be cool! I'd love to take a look a...That would be cool! I'd love to take a look at his 1998 list actually. <br />By the way I used to live in Evanston and I remember running into you in the field a few times. I live in Boston now. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03485918551516333059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-70789918605700326202016-03-09T15:29:21.503-06:002016-03-09T15:29:21.503-06:00Thx. On day two of pink footed goose stakeout I f...Thx. On day two of pink footed goose stakeout I feel like jack black aka greg Miller. Maybe I should set up hot tub and it will come in like movie. ???? I think that was made for tv moment lol. Olaf Danielsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18427270873795437960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-41325886264346204362016-03-09T14:28:42.849-06:002016-03-09T14:28:42.849-06:00I like Big Year projects (I've given a program...I like Big Year projects (I've given a program on them a number of timeless; once with Greg Miller in the audience!). Sandy's complete list is in his book. I'll plug them into the current ABA excel sheet and report back later tonight. While Olaf goes birding!trptjoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05693848945933915289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-53164409624394751652016-03-09T13:15:54.236-06:002016-03-09T13:15:54.236-06:00My words don't give justice to how nice everyo...My words don't give justice to how nice everyone is Olaf Danielsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18427270873795437960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-80623303537216372492016-03-09T10:28:13.175-06:002016-03-09T10:28:13.175-06:00Sounds like the Fieldfare was a challenge. Feels g...Sounds like the Fieldfare was a challenge. Feels good when you nail one of those. <br />Glad that you were able to experience some of Newfoundland's famous hospitality. Best in the world, or at least, North America, in my humble opinion. Onwards and upwards. thorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735492479164864510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-37844072225234844982016-03-09T08:37:32.289-06:002016-03-09T08:37:32.289-06:00Interesting information, Joe.
So that is 53+54+16+...Interesting information, Joe.<br />So that is 53+54+16+3=126 coded birds. Subtract that from his final total of 748 leaves 622 regular (code 1+2) birds. I had heard the 622 number somewhere else, so that jibes.<br /><br />However, there was clearly a major change in the coding system between 1998 and 2005. In 2005 there were 660 code 1+2 birds on the checklist. There is no way that 38 regular birds were added between 1998 and 2005. Unfortunately the ABA website only lists changes going back to 2005, so I haven't been able to check this directly.<br /><br />However, the fact that Komito says "53/57" code 3 birds is a clue. Today there are 83 code 3 birds, and it is unlikely that this number has changed much due to additions or subtractions over the years (splits and exotics usually enter the checklist as code 1 or 2, ABA firsts enter as code 5). So apparently a large number of code 3 birds were shifted down to code 2, and an even larger number of code 4 birds were shifted down to code 3. <br /><br />If we knew what checklist changes (splits, lumps, additions) were made between 1998 and 2005 we could pin things down pretty closely. If there were few or no changes, then an estimate of Komito's coded birds total according to today's system would be 126 - 38 = 88. This is likely a bit low, I bet it was in the low 90s.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03485918551516333059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-19487606688174780612016-03-09T06:12:41.088-06:002016-03-09T06:12:41.088-06:00He did miss that in 1998. Maybe it was a Code 3 at...He did miss that in 1998. Maybe it was a Code 3 at the time, as some numbers have changed. You should include condor on your coded list, I think. Not because it's actually a 6, but because it's not included in the total of 1's and 2's, and that's the point to keeping the running tab of the coded birds. trptjoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05693848945933915289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-79456605254553145112016-03-09T04:35:39.512-06:002016-03-09T04:35:39.512-06:00Didn't he miss great gray owl or was that firs...Didn't he miss great gray owl or was that first time? No agree it is all code 1 and 2 plus 75 to 80. I guess for coded total I should include condor. I keep think it is a 2. It should be but isn't. Olaf Danielsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18427270873795437960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-75058514612180301152016-03-08T21:46:04.978-06:002016-03-08T21:46:04.978-06:00I meant to say, "are not included."I meant to say, "are not included."trptjoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05693848945933915289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-55258616347821191982016-03-08T21:45:09.949-06:002016-03-08T21:45:09.949-06:00A while back you were wondering about the number o...A while back you were wondering about the number of coded birds that Sandy Komito had in 1998. All the Big Year geeks out here and I'm the only one with Sandy's books? Of course the species list has changed a bit, but here's what he says in "I Came, I Saw, I Counted." He had all the Code 1 & 2 species. He went 53/57 for the Code 3s, had 54 Code 4 and 16 Code 5 birds. You're already ahead of him on Code 6 birds: 1-0! The three species added later are included, but obviously they were coded birds.trptjoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05693848945933915289noreply@blogger.com