tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post3945243318222401388..comments2024-03-24T13:38:03.683-05:00Comments on Adventures with Olaf: Life ElevatedOlaf Danielsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18427270873795437960noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-37359851064694058882016-07-03T19:57:09.855-05:002016-07-03T19:57:09.855-05:00Those photos do appear similar to the first photos...Those photos do appear similar to the first photos Olaf provided, but the new photos are very different. I wonder if the lighting was messing with the first ones. With the second photos provided, I would call it a pretty clear cut Savannah Sparrow. <br /><br />And just a tip for Olaf: Everyone makes mistakes. Although the eBird reviewer clearly has expertise in the region, it is possible that he could have identified the bird wrong. It is also quite a rare bird in Minnesota, so it would be understandable if the reviewer had less experience with the species. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04564384705896045975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-15344809926092093532016-06-28T21:28:28.176-05:002016-06-28T21:28:28.176-05:00Impressive, as always. You are in great position....Impressive, as always. You are in great position. Rooting for you to remain focused and looking forward to seeing what the potentially significantly higher BIG Year record number might be!Ron Furnishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08665225476259138805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-81070659511391106102016-06-28T09:15:03.673-05:002016-06-28T09:15:03.673-05:00could always be a second bird, they were 30 yards ...could always be a second bird, they were 30 yards apart....or could be 200 miles and 2 years apart, ....after seeing a guy trying to sell a fork-tailed flycatcher photo in Florida this spring taken on a powerline taken it turns out 3 years earlier and stolen from someone's flickr account, even pictures become suspect. A KWQD report with picture in Feb was dismissed out of hand by most. Just the way it is and it has become. I got better things to do than make this bird up but ...... Olaf Danielsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18427270873795437960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-21070620855206296642016-06-28T09:04:50.633-05:002016-06-28T09:04:50.633-05:00This is just a classic example of birding being an...This is just a classic example of birding being an "art" as much of a science. For us we heard a Baird's AND we saw this bird, never saw and heard at same time and what really does that mean? I've thought of the Juve idea the problem with that juve idea is the timing, if this had been mid July, I think (IMH and worthless? opinion) would have opened a whole can of worms, but being mid-June, in northern tier, the timing doesn't work well. We had a late spring not sure can clutch and fledge fast enough to get to this molt up here. Many birds I can give the nuances of but this isn't one of them..crap, I missidentified my lifer from 32 years ago.....if a North Dakota MT birder was making the comments...I would listen more. I don;t know what the full body of the MN rare bird committee is going to say, just got the one comment, which I find interesting in the definative. Savannah's are a backyard bird, from initial look to now, and added to my SD buddies, that doesn't look like a Savannah we've seen, no eye ring for a Vesper, just wrong on two things for a Lincoln's, but a diagnosis of exclusion is not a good one. It is my list, BUT...For what I'm doing even the remotest bit of uncertainty is not good. I'm sure a couple of you think I haven't even left home this whole year, and I know I really need 742 perfect pictures plus sound and witnesses so in one sense why do I even bother. No this is not a knock, on anyone, just the cold harsh truth. Who really is this guy named Olaf? I just thought I could best Neil Hayward and thought I had a really sound plan. 59 lifers in a year has turned out to be the ride so to speak of my life. Luckily on this bird, I live four hours from Baird's central. Barring something rare, I'll go up next week Olaf Danielsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18427270873795437960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-53523725378842344032016-06-28T01:12:43.879-05:002016-06-28T01:12:43.879-05:00I would agree with Erik. I just spent a bunch of t...I would agree with Erik. I just spent a bunch of time parsing these species and Grasshopper Sparrow this past weekend in eastern Montana. In addition to Erik's marks, the strongly contrasting dark cap and the small-headed, long-tailed appearance of this bird is very wrong for Baird's or any other Ammodrammus. Scrutiny of bird ID is part and parcel of this sort of very public pursuit of a record, no one is "hating". I enjoy the blog, best of luck. <br /><br />Andy BoyceUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12704033807179231393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-89702358949584358302016-06-27T21:59:34.328-05:002016-06-27T21:59:34.328-05:00For those interested, here's a bird that could...For those interested, here's a bird that could be the twin of Olaf's from the wintering grounds: http://www.birdforum.net/opus/Image:Birdforum_67_0.jpgDavidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17275824975876930420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-22257492445058425432016-06-27T21:22:25.173-05:002016-06-27T21:22:25.173-05:00Olaf-
The manner in which others have called out ...Olaf- <br />The manner in which others have called out the sparrows without providing specific critiques is a bit unfair. However, based on the words of Sibley and Pyle I have to agree it doesn't strike me as a Baird's sparrow. <br /><br />From Pyle: :From Savannah Sparrow....supercilium uniformly buffy ochre...eye line usually broken behind the eye; dark patches at the posterior corners of the auricular isolated of distinctly larger than the eye line and subauricular stripe." Goes on to list bander specific measurements...<br /><br />Images in Sibley and online show only full eye-ring and typically broken line behind the eye. As for the central dot, I would say most skeptics will simply believe you have the photos of two different birds up there. <br /><br />I don't know what you saw or heard. We can only respond to the photos. It's your list. And if you do go to North Dakota, who cares. But I think the skepticism is justified. It could be a SAVS or a SAVS juvenile having already undergone its first molt out of the nest. Perhaps Alex and others can respond and say what else they disagree with the ID. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12682327620936131553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-87217308775538672016-06-27T21:15:02.917-05:002016-06-27T21:15:02.917-05:00I wouldn't go so far as to say Baird's is ...I wouldn't go so far as to say Baird's is easily eliminated in this lighting. However, characteristics of Savannah Sparrow including a streaky back, gray eyebrow, thin bill, extensive ventral streaking, and unbroken eye line are evident in these photographs. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17311848726727499750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-43943263678019639252016-06-27T20:11:44.258-05:002016-06-27T20:11:44.258-05:00Also, sparrow photos look fine to me, what gives?Also, sparrow photos look fine to me, what gives?Twitcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10150473259287487675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-48670502374499562222016-06-27T20:10:53.014-05:002016-06-27T20:10:53.014-05:00It's one of your only big missesIt's one of your only big missesTwitcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10150473259287487675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-70471531909290999362016-06-27T20:10:27.169-05:002016-06-27T20:10:27.169-05:00Tropicbird is teasing you on eBird... Scratch it o...Tropicbird is teasing you on eBird... Scratch it off already 😆Twitcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10150473259287487675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-71169561022215440662016-06-27T20:08:59.790-05:002016-06-27T20:08:59.790-05:00Lol!Lol!Twitcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10150473259287487675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-70810923263438941912016-06-27T17:55:26.653-05:002016-06-27T17:55:26.653-05:00499 plus a new pair of shoes. Lol499 plus a new pair of shoes. LolOlaf Danielsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18427270873795437960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-14280988735452712702016-06-27T17:42:07.974-05:002016-06-27T17:42:07.974-05:00Understand was why embarrassed in morning. But wha...Understand was why embarrassed in morning. But what do you even tip these guys? Since I have no clue would rather walk. Like everyone is supposed to know. I guess I didn't get memo. Idk. Olaf Danielsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18427270873795437960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-22640809433593418252016-06-27T17:33:55.242-05:002016-06-27T17:33:55.242-05:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsC0HBYWD1Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsC0HBYWD1MAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15720345943182347036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-82360742519399800172016-06-27T17:32:00.760-05:002016-06-27T17:32:00.760-05:00#truth
#truth<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15720345943182347036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-49631239490343932512016-06-27T13:51:44.976-05:002016-06-27T13:51:44.976-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12704033807179231393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-61851339461888092482016-06-27T09:33:37.865-05:002016-06-27T09:33:37.865-05:00Sasquatch really isnt that hard to photograph, jus...Sasquatch really isnt that hard to photograph, just need some Slim Jims..lol...you should have tried it on the Calliope. The fact that you HAVE to put a disclaimer in that police tape doesnt involve you says a lot. Keep pluggin!!Barry Parkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06810600397504860323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-22806398615480488952016-06-27T09:24:11.822-05:002016-06-27T09:24:11.822-05:00Great that you got the snowcock, and, of course, t...Great that you got the snowcock, and, of course, the Calliope; probably not too many of these little guys much East of there. <br />Totally agree with your feelings about the Rubys- Yosemite without the people. I guess we shouldn't say too much publicaly about this little piece of paradise, but, then, it is only birders who read these kind of blogs!!!<br />Also terrific that Lauren is so close to 500; a real milestone for such a young, ( but proficient ) birder. thorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735492479164864510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-83062546701796831292016-06-27T08:56:00.244-05:002016-06-27T08:56:00.244-05:00I was just in the Rubies at the Island Lake a coup...I was just in the Rubies at the Island Lake a couple weeks ago; I struck out on the Snowcocks, but it is a surprisingly beautiful location!James Regis Mullerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14697009984982393942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-71333460494075824052016-06-27T08:47:16.976-05:002016-06-27T08:47:16.976-05:00Great adventure! Onward, and get that ani.Great adventure! Onward, and get that ani.nanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11760474307284505033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-31634587010606641512016-06-27T08:21:47.947-05:002016-06-27T08:21:47.947-05:00Understand that you were tired and feeling cranky,...Understand that you were tired and feeling cranky, but even so... <br />It is rare that even fancy places pay more than the minimum wage, so understandably they trawl for tips. Just a 'No thank you' suffices. <br /><br />Always be nice to people is what grandmother taught. She didn't exclude bellhops and parking lot valets. netudianthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11726679291917155189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-9162511405102827132016-06-27T05:08:02.415-05:002016-06-27T05:08:02.415-05:00So Alex. You are saying all the Minnesota birders...So Alex. You are saying all the Minnesota birders are full of it then? I have stumped the professors. Well not I but the guy doing breeding bird survey that found it Olaf Danielsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18427270873795437960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7759991183598568178.post-72961819690988728272016-06-27T00:37:45.745-05:002016-06-27T00:37:45.745-05:00Thanks for the additional photos of the sparrow. B...Thanks for the additional photos of the sparrow. Baird's is easily eliminated by structure alone. Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02089476193271787498noreply@blogger.com